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Somebody commented on this image they were curious how the picture could be called art. I didn't think they were being derogatory, and I just heard the remark as an honest question. Here's how I replied:

"I’m not sure I’m the right person to answer your question, but here’s my reply. For a start, the image displays a reasonable degree of technical skill from both the model and photographer. Secondly, there’s an element of creativity in it: i.e. it’s more than just a throwaway snapshot. This was a serious attempt to ‘say’ something by using cameras and bodies and lighting and props etc. And thirdly, the image is also in correct alignment with the contents of my erotic imagination: i.e. it faithfully records what I was thinking that particular day, at that particular time. Ok, you may object, after considering all that, that it’s not very high art. Such objections would be justified. But so what if it won’t ever hang in the Louvre or the Tate Modern? This picture is an utterance of the photographic kind. It’s my utterance. Maybe it’s trivial. But it’s well crafted; it’s articulate; and it’s polite and respectful to the dignity of all concerned in the making of it. It acquires grace and beauty from these considerations alone. It also acquires beauty from the gorgeous figure as its subject. That’s enough to count this picture as art. Just my opinion though. I’d be very pleased to hear yours?"

What say you? What's your opinion?
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:iconalexandrab24:
=AlexandraB24 Oct 24, 2010  Professional General Artist
I agree with you, it is an excellent reply. I'd ask him back: what do you think art is?
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:iconnigel-aves:
~Nigel-Aves Oct 16, 2010  Professional Photographer
Art has no explanations. It is what it is. For one person a photograph / painting / sculpture can be a waste of time, yet to another it strikes deep into their soul. Their are no explanations that can define this. Just, we are all different in how we perceive and how we think.

Also, as artists, we sometimes try to produce for a very wide broad-based audience and sometimes for a very narrow based. This particular photograph would be for the very narrow. A majority of people will never (and possibly could never) see this as art.

But that's OK in all ways. Also as artists we need to shock and astonish. It's apart of our job descriptions! As an artist you never need to explain why what you do as an artist is art. If they need it explained there's a really good chance that no matter what you say, they will never get it :)
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:iconsolus-photography:
Thanks NIgel, enjoyed reading your views, and specially appreciate that you took the time to leave them here at all. Thanks again. Kind regards, Mike.
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:icondas-eier:
great photo, and great explanation! i feel that you didn't need to explain yourself, but you did it well!
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:iconsolus-photography:
Thanks very much, nice of you to comment. Kind regards, Mike.
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:icondhusband:
*dhusband Oct 8, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to believe in what I am doing and feeling when either painting, drawing or photography,and know it is art or I wouldn't try to create it in any format. It's not always good by others standards, because in reality no definition can be made necessarily to define art. It truly comes from the heart and soul of the people that create it: both photographer and model. I do believe there are people out there who take pictures just because they can and with no real feeling or understanding of what they are doing, but in the end they really find out if they are artist or imatators.

I am just a beginner in comparison to many of these fine 'artist' that I have seen through devart and can not begin to say how many beautiful pictures have been seen here or in other media. There are some that take your breath away with beauty, other to admire the composition or form, and some with the unique vision that far surpasses at times my own understanding with the smallest of detail that constructs the photo into a mesmerizing dream.

I hold many people in high esteem with their artwork whether I agree with it or not. Sometimes its not for us to see the vision that one sees in a picture, a painting or a drawing. It may only strike a cord in a select few to the masses, but when the art is there an elation of spirit raises us to a whole new level.

We as artist must continue to support one another, understand these visions of beauty that have been created by nature and put out for all the world to examine under the media's we love best. Some of us love and live for figurative artwork, its not a vision the whole world will share with the blinders that are set before their eyes, nor vain powers who can't accept the truth and beauty that is lost when the trap doors of time that is set before them.

WE CREATE ART. We look and see with a brand new vision each time I see through another artists mind. Sometimes we can discover that which we are missing in our own art and sometimes what we are missing in our lives.

Sorry to ramble, but thats my opinion.
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:iconsolus-photography:
You're not '/rambling' there at all Donald, I enjoyed and agreed with your very detailed and generous comments in every respect. I delayed replying because I wanted to leave a more detailed reply myself, but I can't think of anything else to add to what you've already written. Your remarks speak very well and very beautifully just for themselves! Glad you took the time to leave them. Thanks again, kind regards, Mike.
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:iconjeffreywwalter:
I realize that I might sound callous and may likely offend some, so I apologize in advance for the truth.

95% of models can strike a beautiful pose, but how many can position themselves in such a way as to create beauty while being physically restricted in their movements? Personally, I'd wager there are not many. It is a fine art to create interesting a beautiful poses and movements, and there are some who simply excel at it. This model is one of those people.

But, is this photograph art? Merriam Webster says that art is "the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects." ([link]) To that end I must conclude that is, and what fine art at that. I see before me two works of art: the photograph so skillfully captured, and the pose brilliantly created and modeled.

So many people on dA have become critical to the point of being cynics and it saddens me. It's difficult at times, I understand, with all of the throwaway snapshots (excellent phrasing Michael) polluting the thoughtfully created works. But please keep in mind that your frustration does not entitle you to attack any artist. You may not agree with their art, in fact you may loathe what they create, but you need to share your feelings in a mature manner.

Did that make sense? I've been awake for 21 hours and I feel like I've rambled a little. Sorry.
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:iconsolus-photography:
Thanks very much Jeff, was very nice to receive your detailed comments. It all made sense till this bit:

"But please keep in mind that your frustration does not entitle you to attack any artist. You may not agree with their art, in fact you may loathe what they create, but you need to share your feelings in a mature manner."

Was this part intended for me? If so, who did you think I've attacked? And where have you found that I didn't share my feelings in a mature manner? I'm not being defensive with these questions, just curious how these remarks refer to me?

Kind regards, Mike
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